The Models were staged; they were trying to be punk rock. But the Heartbreakers were so real. I met Thunders through a girl called Karine, who I’d met in Paris in 1977, and who used to score drugs for Thunders occasionally. He was an affable and accommodating guy, kind of like the guys you used to meet on the street who wanted to sell you drugs. I’d met Karine at the same party where I met Yves St Laurent, Bianca Jigger and Warhol — who really did only say ‘gee’. I’d gone with a guy called Bernard, who ran the Gibus Club, and a writer friend called Alain Pacadis — I stayed at his flat and was impressed with the fact that he had a little picture that Iggy had drawn for him. I’d met Pacadis in a café near the Gare du Nord in 1977, on the way back from a job I had in Switzerland. They were wearing leather trousers and were the closest thing you had to punks in Paris at the time. I got into a conversation with them, and we were off on a party that lasted for two weeks.
Richard Cabut interviews Gary Asquith of Rema-Rema fame.